Because Christian worship is not supposed to be about you.
This beggars the imagination. Campy, creepy, carnal, contrived calumny.Puppet abuse indeed, I wonder how many kids will have nightmares about Jesus being eight feet tall with an African war mask for a face and ping-pong paddles for hands? What is most surprising is we don't see anyone walking out of this "mess" in disgust.
This "Mass" is a gathering of the heretical "Call to Action" crowd, if memory serves me right. Everyone there wholeheartedly approved of this travesty, you can be sure.
EEEEEKKKKK!!!!!Mental institution chapel?!?!?!
OMG! How did anyone keep a straight face.Never saw anything like this--it is equally hilarious and dismal and appalling.
But hey, they've got the thurible swinging. Does that make 'em "high church" liturgical monster puppet abusers? Snort.
Kinda stumbled on this site by accident and keep coming back because it is interesting. I only watched the first three minutes and I am not familiar with what the liturgy should be because I am not Catholic, Presbyterian, Anglican, Episcopalian or clergy of any sort so I am humbly and rather timidly commenting on this from a lay perspective. The first thing that struck me besides "that's certainly different" was the diversity of giftings that were being utilized and the varied ages of the people involved. so, while such a "presentation" may not be for either you or I (my own church would probably be horrified) I was impressed that people of all ages, varying giftings and the different media were used. sometimes God uses the strangest things to get our attention.
Lynn, I'm not sure it was God who was getting our attention with those scary larger-than-life puppets (not to mention the liturgical dancers!).Do they remind anyone else of this?: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4HMRtxY-ik
Lynn, I think this "diversity" is certainly misplaced. Sacredness of the liturgy is not a platform for performances. Worship Services of any sort should have God as the center of attention, not the community. Community gatherings OUTSIDE the service is perfectly fine for showing off this wonderful talent.
It looks like they are in a hotel conference room.The speaker talks about "rebuilding the church."I wonder what the story behind this is?IggyAntiochus
@Quotidian Grace-- Actually, have you ever seen this: http://www.pcusa.org/pcnews/2008/08282.htm ?Before I saw the fully-vested priest, I thought this was a PCUSA performance! Aaaagggghhhh!!
average age of "congregation" once again noted.
*snort* Ok, maybe that's a bad term to use...
Fr. Bergstrazer that's not Jesus, I believe it's St. Spatula of Ecko, the patron saint of kitchen utensils.
Eugh! Run away. RUN AWAY!!!*sound of coconuts clapped together*
But where are the snakes? Aren't you supposed to handle rattlesnakes when you do this sort of thing?
I'm not a churchgoer anymore, but I love the ancient art, ritual and that is found in the historic liturgies (whether Catholic, Anglican, Orthodox, Lutheran, etc.) This is just disgraceful. I hate, absolutely hate, unequivocally hate liturgical dance. The big puppets are fun and interesting, but they belong in performance or on the street, not during a worship service.If a non-believer feels this way it must be bad!!!
Please please stop the whirling!
do those people who do the 'liturgical dance' get asked, or do they always volunteer?
Anonymous said, "EEEEEKKKKK!!!!!Mental institution chapel?!?!?!"I've been chaplain in a mental hospital, and *we* never put on anything like this!
I sure didn't think that you could top the clown service.........Yep!!
At least the priest seemed mildly embarrassed... I was going to say that he was old enough to know better, but, well... at least he's old enough to remember better.I have to admit, it's been awhile since I've laughed so. And grateful that, for once, this travesty was from the other side of the Tiber!
And we wonder why people ignore the church. Truly dreadful and embarrassing for everyone involved. Liturgical dance is always awful, but combined with giant puppets it is beyond comprehension.
I was hoping that we would get to see the puppets attempting to take communion with their paddle hands? Communion in both kinds, even?
Very easy to be dismissive of someone else's form of worship, very easy to sneer as those who know better. Where two or three are gathered in my name, there I am. People are individual and this is one collective's effort to understand the mystery of God made Man. How are the puppets different from presenting Christ through other images, statues, icons, or even someone dressing as Him as they did at my Catholic Easter service?
Yes Anonymous - they really make it too easy. I'm not sneering, but no doubt a watching world is. This form of liturgical stupidity and indulgence opens up the name of Christ to all kinds of dishonour and mockery.Now as a reformed presbyterian, I don't abide by icons or images either (although I acknowledge some inconsistency in my life in this regard), but this seems to be in a whole other category. I get how Christians can find images useful (I really do!), but this is just disturbing.As for your quote about "when two or three are gathered...", perhaps you should check the context there. It's talking about discipling a church member, not giving licence for every kind of foolishness. Oh, and I think it means two or three people, not two or three puppets.
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